So...I need some help

mindfreak

@lele0108 said: http://i.imgur.com/1Y25D.png

You really are slow Jimmy.... As I already stated. I registered when I saw your post at MCF on Aug 2nd.. Aug 3rd, I received this e-mail.. ready now, read it slow so it is clear to you this time. You have been approved for membership. Sign in now at the following link: http://www.lowendtalk.com/entry/signin You can't post on LET until an admin approves your account. So that is why I did not post on the 2nd of Aug. You know honestly, all the reviews about you being a rude host.. I don't think they are true, I bet your not rude at all.. Your just to stupid to comprehend your customers questions so you come off as rude as the result.

@lele0108 said: guys don't already figure out already, the @mindfreak guy is actually just GeekHost/Craft.

Do you speak another language I can translate to for you Jimmy because you sure the fuck don't comprehend the English language. 6th time now.. I am not or any way related to that geek guy. My minecraft server is hosted with Daddy Cheese in France.

joepie91

@mindfreak said: @joepie91 I used the link you supplied http://www.robtex.com/cnet/199.189.87.html One IP lower (.18) is a bunch of domains, so I did a whois on them to see if any had ties to geek. My guess is, if he does colo's. He is colo'n in the same place as server4you. The IP does trace to st louis and xiolink is in st louis according to their site.

Yes, it is certain that he would be in the same facility - however, since the Server4You parent company owns their own datacenter, he would have to be coloing with Server4You or any of the associated companies. Perfectly possible however. Another possibility is that he colos with a company that themselves rents space from PlusServer.

I noticed all other hostnames close to that range start with eagle###, where geek has a full hostname without any sort of eagle in it. Maybe the guy is telling the truth and that's the only IP he received from that pool as the hostname doesn't seem to have any senerio's close to the others hostname.

Yes, that just means that they have set an rDNS, rather than leaving the default one intact. If it's a shared IP pool (that they don't own themselves), then it would be perfectly sensible for them to have IPs all over PlusServers ranges - they just get allocated whatever is free. They don't necessarily have to be close to each other.

mindfreak

@joepie91 yeah, I am starting to wonder if Xio is like Limestone Networks who only have a pop rather their own data center, but in this case Xio's pop is in Server4You's data center or considering how many companies Server4You's parent company owns like you pointed out earlier, maybe they own Xio too. IMO there is more to it on Jimmies end of this story to be going though this much trouble to try to run geek's company though the mud so much.

Taz

All my derailing affort :(

mindfreak

@NinjaHawk said: All my derailing affort :(

and you call yourself a ninja!? :)

Talking to that geek guy on his live chat now, seems like a nice guy. They use Olark for live chat too which I think is super cool. He said " Meh, maybe if VortexDerp whatever his name is this week LOL, is this mad now. I need to really spark his anger and offer a months free service to all Vortex Unit customers and see who really ends up going out of business. Something to consider once I'm finished moving into our new Fla and Germany locations"

Damn Jimmy, I wish I was as good as you making friends like this.

ihatetonyy

@mindfreak said: I registered when I saw your post at MCF on Aug 2nd..

Your Join date says Aug 3. My understanding is Join Dates are not aligned with date of approval, but rather date of registration..

Taz

@mindfreak if a live sales agent talks like how you have quoted, summer is almost over.

mindfreak

@ihatetonyy said: Your Join date says Aug 3. My understanding is Join Dates are not aligned with date of approval, but rather date of registration..

Oh, I see why, I just noticed this forum is on UTC.... look at his screenshot. He received the infraction at MCF at 11:49pm EST, so I registered somewhere around that time as the posts didn't stay up long. Since this is based on UTC, it was already Aug 3rd when I registered according to forum time, but still Aug 2nd for my local time

ihatetonyy

Looks like that's the case. My bad.

I'll just sit back and keep eating popcorn.

mindfreak

Share please! :)

lele0108

So, some research done on Xiolink:

Here are their ARIN page: http://whois.arin.net/rest/customer/C01869089.html

Since they have their own ARIN IPs, why would they be using "Hosting Solutions International"?

Looking at their assigned subnets: 63.246.10.0 - 63.246.10.127

This is nowhere near the IP on GeekHost's Test Server, 199.189.87.19

Looking at XioLink's DC: 900 Walnut Street, Suite 15063102 St. Louis Missouri, USA.

Server4You's DC in St. Louis: 710 North Tucker Boulevard #400 St. Louis, MO 63101

A lot of debate is whether he is colocating in Server4You's building under their sub-brands. That's besides the point, since he claims that he is using Xiolink, and that has nothing to do with Server4You/it's brands.

kalam

@NinjaHawk said: Mcdonald or Burger king?

5 Guys

lele0108

@mindfreak said: I registered when I saw your post at MCF on Aug 2nd..

As per your post....

"nahhh, this *****thread****** was posted in the MCF thread before for a few before your posts about them was deleted"

So after decoding your English, I would presume that this thread was posted on MCF thread before it was deleted.

The fact that this thread was CREATED after my comments on MCF were deleted makes your point invalid. It's impossible for this thread to be posted on MCF before, since it wasn't created.

Unless it was going at 88 miles per hour.

mindfreak

@kalam 5 Guys burgers rocks! Them and Culver's!

@lele0108 Why do you care so much? Don't you have customers to attend to rather then all this nonsense linking that proves really nothing. Maybe Xio's office is on Walnut St. but servers are housed on Tucker. Look at Liquid Web, they have 4 data centers they own, none of which are in their corp offices, they are all separate buildings, one on the other side of Lansing, one not even in the same state.

ErawanArifNugroho

lele in Indonesian = cat fish

mindfreak

@lele0108 said: As per your post....

"nahhh, this *****thread****** was posted in the MCF thread before for a few before your posts about them was deleted"

So after decoding your English, I would presume that this thread was posted on MCF thread before it was deleted.

The fact that this thread was CREATED after my comments on MCF were deleted makes your point invalid. It's impossible for this thread to be posted on MCF before, since it wasn't created.

Unless it was going at 88 miles per hour.

Prove it was created after.. Why should anyone take your word for it without proof? From this thread we have learned you are a coward that posts on alts to flame other hosts and have shady business ethics by running two shady companies offering the same exact services. So how can you expect anyone to believe your claims without proof. Furthermore, how would I have found this site and thread if it wasn't linked somewhere?

lele0108

@mindfreak said: Prove it was created after.. Why should anyone take your word for it without proof? From this thread we have learned you are a coward that posts on alts to flame other hosts and have shady business ethics by running two shady companies offering the same exact services. So how can you expect anyone to believe your claims without proof. Furthermore, how would I have found this site and thread if it wasn't linked somewhere?

So, now your asking me to prove it? I screenshoted everything for you, and used Paint to create a image for you. What, you want me to screencap everything with ScreenR for you? Are you agreeing with me that I am correct, and that you are wrong?

And no, Xio does not have more other "server4you" buildings. That building is their DC.

DC1: 900 Walnut Street, Suite 15063102 St. Louis Missouri, USA. DC2: 1111 Olive Street St. Louis, MO 63101

I have called Xiolink myself to confirm this. You may call them for verification.

lele0108

@ErawanArifNugroho said: lele in Indonesian = cat fish

Zen

This thread still makes no sense to me...

mindfreak

@lele0108 said: So, now your asking me to prove it? I screenshoted everything for you

You screenshotted you received an infraction on MCF, how does that prove this thread was created after it was deleted on MCF. You also once again ignored my question.. If this was created after, how did I find this site and thread? I mean after all, according to you I only joined to flame you.

ErawanArifNugroho

@lele : hehe... I didn't have any intention to insult you :p

At first, when I saw your name, I thought you were Indonesian :p But then you use signature, and I realize you don't

NanoG6

Hahaha LOL This thread is somehow funny

William

@joepie91 said: It cannot be determined with certainty what service from this company is being used by GeekCraft (an interesting tidbit is that various other Minecraft servers are found in the same range).

It is likely S4Y due to cheap RAM offers. S4Y also does not colo and is very strict with IPs - They DO colo under a sub brand but they don't care about IPs (i got a /24 with "i want it for hosting" at Serverloft in the US DC for a friend with a 70EUR onetime fee and a RIPE form 2011, but they don't do colo anymore it seems)

MrAndroid

@mindfreak said: Do you speak another language I can translate to for you Jimmy because you sure the fuck don't comprehend the English language.

Please, I myself may not be a perfect example but keep it civilised.

MrAndroid

@William said: S4Y also does not colo and is very strict with IPs - They DO colo under a sub brand but they don't care about IPs (i got a /24 with "i want it for hosting" at Serverloft in the US DC for a friend with a 70EUR onetime fee and a RIPE form 2011, but they don't do colo anymore it seems)

Yes, if he was using any of the other brands, they care less about IPs. He is using Server4You.

Brandon

Ask him to PM you some pictures? This is why I've been working on sending Citrics another PM of some reform that needs to be done in the board. If true, it is "companies" like these that need to be removed from the forums.

lele0108

@Brandon said: Ask him to PM you some pictures? This is why I've been working on sending Citrics another PM of some reform that needs to be done in the board. If true, it is "companies" like these that need to be removed from the forums.

We asked him to show us his rack, etc., said he couldn't.

Pretty sure he's with Server4You. And defiantly not with Xiolink, since I phoned those guys.

I already PM'd citricsquid about him, but if you guys want to, might bring more attention to this issue.

lele0108

@ErawanArifNugroho said: At first, when I saw your name, I thought you were Indonesian :p But then you use signature, and I realize you don't

Hehe, actually Chinese. Username basically is my chinese nickname, coupled with some mystery numbers.

Insidiea

@lele0108 said: We asked him to show us his rack, etc., said he couldn't.

Many DCs don't allow taking photos inside the DC.

gsrdgrdghd

@lele0108 whats your problem with that guy?