Debian 6 vs Ubuntu 11 for 256Ram LEB

dantes

Hey,

I can't decide. Which of the above should I pick? What are the main differences between ubuntu and debian?

Thanks

HalfEatenPie

Well Ubuntu is Debian based :P

Personally, the reason why I choose Debian over Ubuntu is because (usually) on initial install Debian uses up less RAM than Ubuntu. Also some people state Ubuntu is too bloated (but I think it just works for other people).

joodle

Debian!

gsrdgrdghd

The reason i choose Debian over Ubuntu is because Debian is more conservative with their packet management, so you don't have to login every day and do 10 updates.

NanoG6

installing mysql server on ubuntu is such a PITA

rds100

Ubuntu is just broken debian. So i'd go with the less broken thing.

jarland

Both are fine. The main difference is how they manage their repositories, which is a preference for most people, and quite frankly not one that even matters to most people. But if you ask a bunch of old time unix nerds, Ubuntu is "hipster" (aka marketed to the end user) and is therefore significantly inferior.

Mon5t3r

is this a real question? i wont use ubuntu if i really don't need them.

ErawanArifNugroho

Use Debian 6 for less memory usage :)

Most of my vps is using Debian 6. One of them is using Ubuntu 11 for the IPv6 testing purpose

jarland

I've got a Ubuntu template running on 3mb of memory so it's not an issue of using less memory, but one of laziness simply installing Debian 6 minimal templates which more OpenVZ providers have better versions of than their Ubuntu counterparts because they'd rather not take the time to make one. Just the way it happened, no good reason.

Maounique

@ErawanArifNugroho said: Use Debian 6 for less memory usage :)

Most of my vps is using Debian 6.

Same here, but ppl say ubuntu is more friendly to newbies, tho that matters for desktops. I would say start with debian, it should work. M

Andri

@jarland said: Ubuntu is "hipster"

Then Debian is "retro". And I'm a retro. :D

Nick_A

@Andri said: Then Debian is "retro". And I'm a retro. :D

What would a CentOS fan be?

gsrdgrdghd

Neither Debian nor CentOS are retro, the only retro Linux currently in use is Slackware.

Maounique

@gsrdgrdghd said: Neither Debian nor CentOS are retro, the only retro Linux currently in use is Slackware.

Yep, but even I dont use that, and I started with 3.1... M

ElliotJ

@jarland said: Both are fine. The main difference is how they manage their repositories, which is a preference for most people, and quite frankly not one that even matters to most people. But if you ask a bunch of old time unix nerds, Ubuntu is "hipster" (aka marketed to the end user) and is therefore significantly inferior.

Hell no, Arch is hipster, the awkward Linux distro. :3

On topic though, Debian all the way.

JoeMerit

I don't think you would see any difference between Debian 6 and Ubuntu 11 other than Ubuntu 11 having software packages that are more current.

Asim

Why not compare with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?

yomero

Yesterday I was fighting with that crapppppp ubuntu.

Each day they add another layer to the sound system stack or wtf??? Is so complex and harder to debug. I prefer Debian and alsa, period.

On topic, both will use around the same RAM.

Mon5t3r

@gsrdgrdghd said: the only retro Linux currently in use is Slackware

Maounique

@yomero said: Each day they add another layer to the sound system stack or wtf??? Is so complex and harder to debug.

I had once a problem with cmus, just got rid of pulseaudio and it worked... Sometimes it is just better when it's simple. But this is desktop stuff, sorry for derailling again :P M

jarland

Your linux installations have sound?

;)

Maounique

Yeah, my home server has sound as I listen to bbc through bluetooth 24/7. I mean it is always on, I just turn on the headphone or the speakers when I eat for example. M

Isaiah

Debian 6 vs. Ubuntu 11 for a 256RAM. — Debian would be the right choice for many reasons. In simple, you'll just have to try it to know the difference(s).

jcaleb

Debian for server, Ubuntu for desktop. I tried Ubuntu on server and it eats so much memory compared to debian.

Maounique

I think there was some problem there. Ubuntu should not take much more ram as a server than debian. If you are over 15% more or so, something is wrong or the conditions are not the same. M

jarland

Ubuntu 12.04 minimal - 3mb ram Which like takes more memory again? ;)

harry

prefered debian than ubuntu, when you run a server use debian

nunim

Debian 32 bit I find to be the best platform for low end vps, it consumes little memory, has apt-get (my favorite package management system). Packages are stable but sometimes a bit older, I will use Ubuntu when I require more current package versions without compiling from source/using testing repos.

MrAndroid

@nunim said: Debian 32 bit I find to be the best platform for low end vps, it consumes little memory, has apt-get (my favorite package management system). Packages are stable but sometimes a bit older, I will use Ubuntu when I require more current package versions without compiling from source/using testing repos.

Add Debian sid and you have the latest and blazing packages.

yomero

@MrLawoodle said: Add Debian sid and you have the latest and blazing packages.

Too complex, and most time dependencies break lot of stuff. Better to look for:

• Debian backports.
• Custom repos (like @Steve81 one http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/1001/squeeze-repository)
• Compile from source.