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GinerNet review [Spain]

NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
edited July 2014 in Reviews

I am very happy to be writing a review about a little ISP in my home country. Spain is a pretty "rare" location for hosting in Europe, isn't central, power is expensive and sadly, many (most?) providers offer a poor service not in line with European standards.

So I wasn't expecting much when signing up for a service with Giner. Anyway, the offer was interesting: one OVZ container hosted at the best datacenter in Spain, with a decent upstream for merely 18€/year, VAT included.

My VPS has a Spanish IPv4 plus a bunch of IPv6 on a separate /64 just for me, something to be thankful for since they do use SolusVM. I haven't needed much support, but ticket response time has been nice and non-urgent tickets had been replied to pretty fast on working hours. Uptime has been good and more than 99.9 % always, network always great and performance never suffered during this time. rDNS was automated and everything else has been working fine, so I haven't really needed human support.

Since this is a one man show, I will talk on the personal level too: Giner has always been there and I talk to him from time to time on Skype, he is a guy which genuinely cares about his customers, even if they are paying peanuts. He provides a nice service and he strives to make everyone happy. A pleasure to deal with.

GinerNet is providing a unique service in Spain. No one is selling virtualization which simply works, at extremely low prices and already surpassing some other way more expensive, heavily marketed providers in the country. A pleasure to have such a breath of fresh air in a market which looked like dead in Spain, with providers mainly marketing "Spanish IP addresses" as their main selling point for their poor Cogent or ONO singlehomed services.

Sorry if you wanted some benchmarks or dd porn here. The server is fine, it is always up and performs nicely at any time of the day. Giner rocks and I am officially a little fanboy. He earned it.

Oh, and sorry about my English too, it isn't my native language.

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  • ATHKATHK Member

    This is how you do a review, the benchmarks would've made it even better.

    Thank you!

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    nice one :)

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    Is this in their Madrid location or in Barcelona?

  • IshaqIshaq Member

    Your English is better than some "native" speakers.

  • @Ishaq said:
    Your English is better than some "native" speakers.

    Mia enlish iz gr8 nd pofeshionl

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • matthewvzmatthewvz Member, Host Rep

    @0xdragon said:
    Mia enlish iz gr8 nd pofeshionl

    u nub, y u do dis?

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • @matthewvz said:
    u nub, y u do dis?

    ORPNHFR V PNA! ;)

    (Shift 13)

  • ab ebg 13!

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Nekki said:
    Is this in their Madrid location or in Barcelona?

    Madrid Interxion (they have two locations in Madrid).

    Barcelona is actually crappy under my opinion and I don't want anything to do with the owners of Xtudio/Sered (the upstream), anyway.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    Nyr said: Barcelona is actually crappy under my opinion and I don't want anything to do with the owners of Xtudio/Sered (the upstream), anyway.

    Why's that, might I ask? I've got one of the Barcelona plans and it's been very good to me so far, but if there's a good reason to move to Madrid, I'd be interested to hear about it.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @Nekki said:
    Why's that, might I ask? I've got one of the Barcelona plans and it's been very good to me so far, but if there's a good reason to move to Madrid, I'd be interested to hear about it.

    From a purely technical point of view:

    • MAD1 is hosted on the best commercial DC in Madrid, with a pretty decent network blend being in Spain.

    • MAD2 is hosted on a cheap network, but what can I say, it's cheap and it mostly works.

    • BCN is hosted on on a low-cost datacenter with a crappy network. Some months ago they were pure Cogent, looks like they are now on NTT. About a year or two ago, they didn't even manage to get 99 % network uptime some months. I was recently in Barcelona and routes from Telefonica (biggest ISP here) where going via Cogent: Barcelona -> Paris -> Madrid -> Barcelona.

    From a personal point of view:

    • MAD1 has a nice upstream with 10 years of experience in the industry and a nice network. You can't compare them with the great European providers, but it's fine for Spain. EDIS does host with them for their Spanish location too.

    • MAD2 is a new datacenter built two years ago. They are still getting up to speed, but network is ok for the price. Service is so-so and they get easily offended about critical (not bad) reviews. Last month, they invented abuse to get me kicked from their network which is stupid since I recommended them to some people in the past, even here on LET.

    • BCN network is run by a bunch of kiddies. Long history short: I criticized them on my personal Twitter account and they DDoSed me at Prometeus the next day. Then the founder phoned me and recognized all this shit. After that, he threatened to sue me for recording the phone call.

    Thanked by 3Nekki shrubbles Shade
  • jmginerjmginer Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2014

    Our new location will be ready next week: Alicante

    In Alicante, we own every HW component without any third party intervention (Only the upstream link that provides us a BGP sesion, our AS59432 is link UP)

    Looking glass: http://ali.ginernet.com/

    Serverbear test: http://serverbear.com/benchmark/2014/07/12/WmhXvtWuLAsZhboy

  • Mahfuz_SS_EHLMahfuz_SS_EHL Host Rep, Veteran

    @jmginer said:
    Our new location will be ready next week: Alicante

    In Alicante, we own every HW component without any third party intervention (Only the upstream link that provides us a BGP sesion, our AS59432 is link UP)

    Looking glass: http://ali.ginernet.com/

    Serverbear test: http://serverbear.com/benchmark/2014/07/12/WmhXvtWuLAsZhboy

    How many locations you are operating?? All in Spain??

  • I've had one in Barcelona with Ginernet for a few months and it's been good, no real issues and good support when needed. Interesting to get some background info, sounds like MAD1 is the way to go if we need another VPS in Spain.

  • jmginerjmginer Member, Patron Provider

    @Mahfuz_SS_EHL said:
    How many locations you are operating?? All in Spain??

    4 (MAD1, MAD2, BCN and ALI), all in Spain

  • @jmginer said:
    Our new location will be ready next week: Alicante

    In Alicante, we own every HW component without any third party intervention (Only the upstream link that provides us a BGP sesion, our AS59432 is link UP)

    Looking glass: http://ali.ginernet.com/

    Serverbear test: http://serverbear.com/benchmark/2014/07/12/WmhXvtWuLAsZhboy

    Same datacenter as before switching to BCN?

    Lástima que todas las rutas pasen por Madrid, 39ms desde Valencia a Alicante, 20ms hasta MAD1...

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited July 2014

    albertdb said: Lástima que todas las rutas pasen por Madrid, 39ms desde Valencia a Alicante, 20ms hasta MAD1...

    Via ONO, I assume?

    From Jazztel in Zamora, ADSL (basically the other side of the country):

    traceroute to ali.ginernet.com (185.47.128.130), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
     1  10.10.10.10 (10.10.10.10)  4.437 ms  0.905 ms  0.867 ms
     2  1.240.11.37.dynamic.jazztel.es (37.11.240.1)  7.937 ms  6.992 ms  7.402 ms
     3  10.255.61.254 (10.255.61.254)  9.950 ms  7.214 ms  8.514 ms
     4  62.217.106.212.static.jazztel.es (212.106.217.62)  12.847 ms  13.197 ms
        98.217.106.212.static.jazztel.es (212.106.217.98)  13.167 ms
     5  97.217.106.212.static.jazztel.es (212.106.217.97)  15.672 ms
        61.217.106.212.static.jazztel.es (212.106.217.61)  13.034 ms  13.583 ms
     6  146.216.106.212.static.jazztel.es (212.106.216.146)  13.280 ms  13.935 ms
        162.216.106.212.static.jazztel.es (212.106.216.162)  17.180 ms
     7  * * *
     8  * * *
     9  84.232.70.246 (84.232.70.246)  24.464 ms  20.156 ms  19.880 ms
    10  ali1-ovz0.ginernet.com (185.47.128.10)  21.179 ms  20.576 ms  20.905 ms
    11  ali.ginernet.com (185.47.128.130)  25.431 ms  26.638 ms  25.559 ms
    

    From MAD1:

    traceroute to ali.ginernet.com (185.47.128.130), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  mad1-ovz1.ginernet.com (5.134.116.11)  0.016 ms  0.007 ms  0.006 ms
     2  4-228.furanet.com (195.78.228.4)  0.386 ms  0.438 ms  0.489 ms
     3  * * *
     4  10.50.50.194 (10.50.50.194)  13.806 ms  13.864 ms  24.344 ms
     5  84.232.70.246 (84.232.70.246)  13.912 ms  13.906 ms  13.886 ms
     6  ali1-ovz0.ginernet.com (185.47.128.10)  13.987 ms  14.096 ms  15.468 ms
     7  ali.ginernet.com (185.47.128.130)  13.942 ms  14.035 ms  14.003 ms
    

    Looks nice to me, as good as you can get, to be honest.

    Thanked by 1jmginer
  • jmginerjmginer Member, Patron Provider

    @albertdb said: Same datacenter as before switching to BCN?

    No, We host in "AireNetworks" datacenter. Our first location was "ABServer" datacenter.

  • @Nyr said:
    Via ONO, I assume?

    Tele2 (Comunitel network) that then was bought by Vodafone.

    From Jazztel in Zamora, ADSL (basically the other side of the country):

    In that case, packets must cross Madrid to reach Alicante, so it's not a big problem. But since Valencia and Alicante are more or less at the same distance of Madrid, the ping doubles if you had to go through Madrid, instead of going directly #ThisIsSpain.

    @jmginer said:
    No, We host in "AireNetworks" datacenter. Our first location was "ABServer" datacenter.

    Good to know.

  • inassetinasset Member

    Hi,

    Just came across this review, from July 2014.

    We are MAD2 datacenter in this review, and we would like to let you know the other side of the story.

    We do not invent abuse to kick anybody out of our network, and we are not easily offended by criticism.

    We are here to serve our customers with the highest standards. Everything that does not fit into this premise, is simply out.

    That said, everybody is welcome to test our network. You can use a temporary Looking Glass installed at : inasset.es/lg

    Kind Regards,

    inAsset | NixMad

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Nyr said: I criticized them on my personal Twitter account and they DDoSed me at Prometeus the next day. Then the founder phoned me and recognized all this shit. After that, he threatened to sue me for recording the phone call.

    Whoa... And we worry about kids with a colo in their basement...

  • inassetinasset Member

    Hi,

    Just to clarify, Maounique : The comment you quoted is about a BCN datacenter (not us).

    We are located in Madrid.

    Regards,

    inAsset | NixMad

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @inasset said:

    Hi,

    Just to clarify, Maounique : The comment you quoted is about a BCN datacenter (not us).

    We are located in Madrid.

    Regards,

    inAsset | NixMad

    I might tour your datacenter one of these days :P

  • inassetinasset Member

    @MrGeneral said:
    I might tour your datacenter one of these days :P

    Hi MrGeneral,

    You are welcome to visit. You can have a glimpse at inasset.es/corporate/datacenter

    Regards,

    inAsset | NixMad

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @inasset what I stated in the comment are facts. You accused me of "strange activity" (your words) and provided zero logs or proof to sustain the claim. Not very professional if you ask me. I left "voluntarily", my wording could had been better about it. I was not directly told to leave but indirectly forced.

    Proof about my claims is still available, although I would prefer not to publish it here since it implies a third party.

  • inassetinasset Member

    Proof about what you call "strange activity" is available. We only provide logs to local authorities, and required by law.

    inAsset | NixMad

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    inasset said: Proof about what you call "strange activity" is available. We only provide logs to local authorities, and required by law.

    "Strange activity" were your own words, not mine.

    And you are full of bullshit. I am giving you full permission to post any proof you have involving me.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited May 2015

    inasset said: Hi MrGeneral,

    You are welcome to visit. You can have a glimpse at inasset.es/corporate/datacenter

    Regards,

    inAsset | NixMad

    I'm from Portugal, I'd gladly visit you. :)

    Edit: The video doesn't show, both in Chrome and IE.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    inasset said: Proof about what you call "strange activity" is available. We only provide logs to local authorities, and required by law.

    inAsset | NixMad

    However... Providing logs only to local authorities makes no sense. The customer deserves to have access to those logs.

  • inassetinasset Member

    @MrGeneral said:
    However... Providing logs only to local authorities makes no sense. The customer deserves to have access to those logs.

    This guy was not our customer. He was hosted by one of our customers.

    Nevertheless, the customer is not entitled to have access to our logs. We might provide them, at our own discretion or if requested by law.

    This is our final intervention in this post, as we only wanted to clarify the users obviously biased comment.

    Regards,

    inAsset | NixMad

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