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  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @kbar said: debian 5 lolwat

    Since this is a VPS by the Datacenter we are limited to what they offer, i would have taken 6 also if i could.

  • rds100rds100 Member

    @Willian apt-get dist-upgrade it?

  • ChanChan Member

    From Linode Japan

    root@li408-138:~# curl -o /dev/null http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin

    % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
    Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
    100 97.6M 100 97.6M 0 0 637k 0 0:02:36 0:02:36 --:--:-- 981k

    Anyway your outwards traceroute tool is broken

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @Chan said: Anyway your outwards traceroute tool is broken

    How so?
    Works fine for me....

  • ChanChan Member

    @William

    How so?
    Works fine for me....

    I got this with "http://124.248.212.94:8080/tools"

    PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.

    --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
    4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2999ms

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited May 2012

    Because the Google Edge in Hongkong seems to not reply to ping:

    edistest:~# ping 8.8.8.8
    PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
    ^C
    --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
    5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4013ms

    (8.8.4.4 does though)

  • klikliklikli Member
    edited May 2012

    @William said: Because the Google Edge in Hongkong seems to not reply to ping:

    That is weird.

    From Netvigator, 1.36.0.0/16
    $ ping -c4 8.8.8.8
    PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=14.247 ms
    64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=13.479 ms
    64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=16.003 ms
    64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=13.380 ms

  • klikliklikli Member

    traceroute6 does not seem to work anyway.

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @klikli said: traceroute6 does not seem to work anyway.

    Mhm, does for me
    http://zeyuu.net/i/4fc20169c6a91986580254.png

  • idiotrickyidiotricky Member
    edited May 2012

    OOOOOPPPPS

  • jaxyanjaxyan Member

    when will edis asia launch?
    btw, i google for the isp.
    the isp seems not bad and not good =p

  • DerekDerek Member

    3 .... (....) 16.467 ms 21.517 ms 22.410 ms
    4 cer-edge-17.inet.qwest.net (208.47.34.193) 28.643 ms 27.590 ms 28.944 ms
    5 sjp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (67.14.34.10) 79.938 ms 83.862 ms 82.837 ms
    6 ip-202-147-50-249.asianetcom.net (202.147.50.249) 84.252 ms 158.949 ms 69.378 ms
    7 te0-0-2-0.wr1.osa0.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.97) 190.549 ms 192.906 ms 191.986 ms
    8 te0-2-0-0.wr1.hkg0.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.69) 251.529 ms 251.819 ms 250.181 ms
    9 ge-4-1-0-0.cr4.hkg3.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.142) 236.103 ms 240.908 ms 241.755 ms
    10 ge-0-2-0-0.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net (122.152.184.49) 242.647 ms 241.990 ms 242.897 ms
    11 NIT-0002.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net (122.152.189.146) 295.334 ms 294.298 ms 295.504 ms
    12 in.core-rt-003.gi.gi0.2.sunnyvision.com (123.242.225.26) 293.278 ms 288.422 ms 288.330 ms
    13 in.core-sw-001.gi.gi1.0.25.sunnyvision.com (123.242.225.2) 294.802 ms 292.864 ms 291.817 ms
    14 124-248-212-94.sunnyvision.com (124.248.212.94) 295.720 ms 295.072 ms 295.990 ms

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @jaxyan said: when will edis asia launch?

    btw, i google for the isp.
    the isp seems not bad and not good =p

    4 weeks.
    Yes, it had a not so great reputation in the past mainly for hosting spammers - Since we don't use their IPs it should not matter however :)

  • jaxyanjaxyan Member

    i am just a newbie.
    how to make it that only use their connectivity but do not use their ip?

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    We have our own IPs from RIPE.

  • AmfyAmfy Member

    @jaxyan: The provider can put the IPs from Edis in their router and then Edis can use their own IPs on their servers in HK

  • unusedunused Member

    SunnyVision severely limits mainland china and international traffic (usually to 2mbps) with their "100mbps" ports -- you'll get that typically only from routes via HKIX, or they route to the US first.

    From Shanghai, Mainland China

    wget http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
--2012-06-06 04:26:39--  http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
Resolving hktest.edis.at... 124.248.212.94, 2400:f100:2:1:216:3eff:feb2:ddc0
Connecting to hktest.edis.at|124.248.212.94|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 102400000 (98M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.bin'

 0% [                                                                                                                                                               ] 502,456     63.4K/s  eta 25m 39s

    Traceroute (goes through the US)

    traceroute to hktest.edis.at (124.248.212.94), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  114.80.200.1 (114.80.200.1)  0.754 ms  0.963 ms  1.217 ms
 2  172.18.2.101 (172.18.2.101)  3.569 ms  3.672 ms  3.811 ms
 3   (114.80.204.121)  3.451 ms  3.731 ms  3.972 ms
 4  124.74.232.213 (124.74.232.213)  36.847 ms  36.811 ms 124.74.232.209 (124.74.232.209)  0.467 ms
 5  124.74.166.25 (124.74.166.25)  1.019 ms  0.983 ms 61.129.95.29 (61.129.95.29)  1.333 ms
 6  61.152.86.194 (61.152.86.194)  1.432 ms 61.152.86.178 (61.152.86.178)  1.653 ms 61.152.86.194 (61.152.86.194)  1.432 ms
 7  202.97.50.226 (202.97.50.226)  1.696 ms  (202.97.33.38)  4.374 ms  2.356 ms
 8   (202.97.33.2)  2.347 ms  2.298 ms  (202.97.35.106)  68.076 ms
 9  202.97.61.38 (202.97.61.38)  33.398 ms  33.362 ms  33.323 ms
10  * * *
11  203.131.245.101 (203.131.245.101)  103.625 ms  101.110 ms  102.538 ms
12  ae-1.r20.newthk02.hk.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.36)  168.330 ms  168.282 ms  168.247 ms
13  as-1.r22.osakjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.6)  139.288 ms  139.252 ms  136.820 ms
14  ae-0.r21.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.72)  97.756 ms ae-2.r21.osakjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.68)  126.353 ms ae-0.r21.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.72)  99.866 ms
15  as-1.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.197)  258.214 ms  259.154 ms  251.121 ms
16  equinix-sjc.ip.tiscali.net (206.223.116.19)  185.588 ms  187.564 ms  187.525 ms
17  xe-1-0-0.sjc12.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.184.121)  188.077 ms xe-0-0-0.sjc12.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.184.125)  162.318 ms xe-7-2-0.sjc12.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.187.46)  176.269 ms
18  pacnet-gw.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.68.234)  188.374 ms  181.357 ms  186.543 ms
19  te0-0-2-0.wr1.osa0.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.97)  216.542 ms  218.358 ms  216.820 ms
20  te0-2-0-0.wr1.hkg0.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.69)  263.788 ms  263.744 ms  263.685 ms
21  gi11-0-0.gw5.hkg3.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.102)  272.018 ms  257.068 ms  267.299 ms
22  ge-3-0-0-0.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net (122.152.184.45)  339.175 ms  351.227 ms  339.211 ms
23  NIT-0002.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net (122.152.189.146)  203.017 ms  210.994 ms  202.080 ms
24  in.core-rt-003.gi.gi0.2.sunnyvision.com (123.242.225.26)  199.560 ms  204.140 ms  197.650 ms
25  in.core-sw-001.gi.gi1.0.25.sunnyvision.com (123.242.225.2)  284.872 ms  284.554 ms  278.198 ms
26  124-248-212-94.sunnyvision.com (124.248.212.94)  203.154 ms  198.852 ms  200.124 ms

    :-(

  • Mr_FiveMr_Five Member

    Hmm... something strange with the traceroute results >.<

    Tracing route to sunnyvision.com [123.242.224.16]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    1 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms ...
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms be4-cg03-pe03.fast.net.id [202.73.96.73]
    4 9 ms 8 ms 10 ms be4-cg03-pe03.fast.net.id [202.73.96.73]
    5 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms be5-cg01-cg03.fast.net.id [202.73.96.70]
    6 22 ms 52 ms 21 ms 111.95.247.66
    7 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms snge-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.85.137]
    8 53 ms 52 ms 55 ms hnk-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.245.149]
    9 54 ms 63 ms 51 ms pacnet-ic-128274-hnk-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.95.66]
    10 56 ms 65 ms 74 ms ge-1-0-0-0.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net [122.152.184.41]
    11 56 ms 55 ms 55 ms NIT-0002.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net [122.152.189.146]
    12 71 ms 56 ms 57 ms in.core-rt-003.gi.gi0.2.sunnyvision.com [123.242.225.26]
    13 * * 67 ms in.core-sw-001.gi.gi1.0.25.sunnyvision.com [123.242.225.2]
    14 61 ms 56 ms 60 ms sunnyvision.com [123.242.224.16]
    Trace complete.

    Tracing route to 124-248-212-94.sunnyvision.com [124.248.212.94]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.6
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms be8-cg03-pe04.fast.net.id [202.73.96.25]
    4 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms be8-cg03-pe04.fast.net.id [202.73.96.25]
    5 34 ms 8 ms 10 ms be5-cg01-cg03.fast.net.id [202.73.96.70]
    6 22 ms 23 ms 26 ms 111.95.247.66
    7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae0-125.sin10.ip4.tinet.net [213.254.227.113]
    8 276 ms 276 ms 276 ms xe-2-0-0.sjc12.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.183.85]
    9 287 ms 284 ms 291 ms pacnet-gw.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.68.234]
    10 292 ms 292 ms 297 ms te0-0-2-0.wr1.osa0.asianetcom.net [61.14.157.97]
    11 302 ms 300 ms 299 ms te0-2-0-0.wr1.hkg0.asianetcom.net [61.14.157.69]
    12 296 ms 295 ms 294 ms ge-4-1-0-0.cr4.hkg3.asianetcom.net [61.14.157.142]
    13 297 ms 322 ms 302 ms ge-0-2-0-0.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net [122.152.184.49]
    14 297 ms 297 ms 296 ms NIT-0002.csgw1.hkg3.asianetcom.net [122.152.189.146]
    15 297 ms 298 ms 303 ms in.core-rt-003.gi.gi0.2.sunnyvision.com [123.242.225.26]
    16 298 ms 302 ms 298 ms in.core-sw-001.gi.gi1.0.25.sunnyvision.com [123.242.225.2]
    17 300 ms 308 ms 299 ms 124-248-212-94.sunnyvision.com [124.248.212.94]
    Trace complete.

  • unusedunused Member

    Via HKIX on a gigE port

    --2012-06-06 04:34:51--  http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
Resolving hktest.edis.at... 124.248.212.94, 2400:f100:2:1:216:3eff:feb2:ddc0
Connecting to hktest.edis.at|124.248.212.94|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 102400000 (98M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.bin'

100%[==============================================================================================================================================================>] 102,400,000 2.02M/s   in 45s     

2012-06-06 04:35:39 (2.17 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [102400000/102400000]

    Traceroute

    traceroute to hktest.edis.at (124.248.212.94), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  208.111.42.3 (208.111.42.3)  1.478 ms  1.458 ms  1.437 ms
 2  vip250049.hknet.com (218.213.250.49)  1.411 ms  1.547 ms  1.518 ms
 3  sunnyvision2-RGE.hkix.net (202.40.161.79)  1.812 ms  1.447 ms  1.532 ms
 4  in.core-rt-003.gi.gi0.1.sunnyvision.com (123.242.225.30)  2.904 ms  2.266 ms  3.032 ms
 5  in.core-sw-001.gi.gi1.0.25.sunnyvision.com (123.242.225.2)  9.755 ms  11.813 ms  12.487 ms
 6  124-248-212-94.sunnyvision.com (124.248.212.94)  3.588 ms  3.573 ms  3.553 ms
  • jcalebjcaleb Member

    Ping is so fast... when will this be available?

  • unusedunused Member
    edited June 2012

    @jcaleb www.36cloud.com is the official "Sunny Vision" solusVM type product ( $$ ) if you want to try the same location. (They have a per day pricing model too)

    Personally though, the network isn't optimal unless you are living in Hong Kong and only want Hong Kong traffic - it's worthless for Mainland China, and for pulling in from International due to the sunnyvision limitations.

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @unused said: Personally though, the network isn't optimal unless you are living in Hong Kong and only want Hong Kong traffic

    You are free to recommend another ISP which NOT charging 10k HKD per month - i got over 100 quotes and most were around or above that

  • jcalebjcaleb Member

    @unused their vps package is expensive. I'll just wait for Edis HK =) HK is much faster ping than SG.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @William said: You are free to recommend another ISP which NOT charging 10k HKD per month - i got over 100 quotes and most were around or above that

    Anyone offering cheap out of HK is likely jumping on HE no? Pretty sure that was the TL;DR of a thread a while back... HE got like a 10Gbit run there and sold it more than a few times over causing it to be pretty crappy and requiring a back peddle to the US.

    Maybe they fixed it?

    Francisco

    Thanked by 1klikli
  • unusedunused Member
    edited June 2012

    @William - I wasn't making a specific recommendation one way or the other, just a general comment on the state of things in HK. You're right, if you want premium bandwidth/connectivity in HK, you have to pay for it - that's just the way it is. (As you can see by your sunnyvision routing to the USA and back to HK from mainland China, and the caps on international)

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    @Francisco said: Anyone offering cheap out of HK is likely jumping on HE no? Pretty sure that was the TL;DR of a thread a while back... HE got like a 10Gbit run there and sold it more than a few times over causing it to be pretty crappy and requiring a back peddle to the US.

    Yes, they run 100G lambda however iirc between LA and HK iirc.
    HE is not that bad to the US actually :)

    @unused said: You're right, if you want premium bandwidth/connectivity in HK

    I don't even want Premium, solid working connectivity is fine - Sure Sunnyvision is not the best but it works (see @huluwa which got 1,2MB/s down on a Mainland line)

    @unused said: As you can see by your sunnyvision routing to the USA and back to HK from mainland China

    Hm? I'm not sure where you see this, i checked both Netcom/Unicom, Telecom and something named China Railway and all of them go directly to HK (CN->HK) and HK->CN without any US hops.

    @unused said: caps on international

    Can't see this either, i get solid 35Mbit over a Asianetcom line in Amsterdam from the testfile (which is likely on a even more shared line, so not that bad)

    Thanked by 1klikli
  • unusedunused Member
    edited June 2012

    I don't even want Premium, solid working connectivity is fine - Sure Sunnyvision is not the best but it works (see @huluwa which got 1,2MB/s down on a Mainland line)

    @William - @huluwa is the only one who got 1.2mb, and that's probably over a smaller mainland ISP peering on HKIX. Have you looked at the traces I put in and from others in this thread?

    IMHO, even solid connectivity at low cost isn't going to be cost effective in HK. Mainland users will opt to go to Los Angeles for UT/CT peering or Japan. Korea has some good options if they just want to host sites without Mainland content restrictions but has its own international transit failings.

    Take a look at this to get an Idea of ping connectivity to your test ip: http://ping.chinaz.com/ it's currently down for most of the mainland.

    ping 124.248.212.94
PING 124.248.212.94 (124.248.212.94) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 124.248.212.94 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5010ms

traceroute to 124.248.212.94 (124.248.212.94), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  114.80.200.1  0.515 ms  0.956 ms  1.215 ms
 2  172.18.2.101  2.682 ms  2.802 ms  2.872 ms
 3  114.80.204.121  3.865 ms  4.122 ms  4.385 ms
 4  124.74.232.209  0.466 ms  0.493 ms 124.74.232.213  0.494 ms
 5  124.74.254.137  1.176 ms 124.74.166.25  0.963 ms 124.74.166.149  1.291 ms
 6  61.152.86.178  1.319 ms 61.152.86.2  1.242 ms 61.152.86.178  1.383 ms
 7  202.97.33.38  1.736 ms 202.97.50.226  1.614 ms 202.97.33.10  1.808 ms
 8  202.97.33.54  2.056 ms  1.888 ms 202.97.35.18  73.901 ms
 9  202.97.61.38  27.173 ms  27.086 ms  27.086 ms
10  * * *
11  202.123.74.33  58.935 ms  58.965 ms  58.798 ms
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
------snip

    It looks like it could be SunnyVision just not yet having updated prefix filters, but that's nothing new. Unfortunately their reputation on the HK/Mainland side is well known.

    Agreed though, at your price point no one is going to argue!

  • unusedunused Member

    @William, from Amsterdam:

    wget http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
--2012-06-06 05:36:36--  http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
Resolving hktest.edis.at... 124.248.212.94, 2400:f100:2:1:216:3eff:feb2:ddc0
Connecting to hktest.edis.at|124.248.212.94|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 102400000 (98M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.bin'

13% [====================>                                                                                                                                          ] 13,583,688   217K/s  eta 3m 22s

    From Los Angeles

    wget http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
--2012-06-06 05:38:21--  http://hktest.edis.at/100mb.bin
Resolving hktest.edis.at... 124.248.212.94, 2400:f100:2:1:216:3eff:feb2:ddc0
Connecting to hktest.edis.at|124.248.212.94|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 102400000 (98M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.bin'

13% [====================>                                                                                                                                          ] 14,113,656   431K/s  eta 2m 20s  ^

    Both on gigE ports to gigE+ ---- also both start out at ~20mbps and ramp down quickly. Could be traffic shaping is now in place for you, which is known to happen from time-time with SV.

    Don't mean to be negative, I hope it goes well. Just an FYI that you'll need to stay on top of things there like no other given the location & upstream.

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    Please test Ping/Ping6/traceroute to:

    103.11.140.3
    2400:8800:1f08::1

    Worse/Better?

    It is in SIngapore.

    I don't feel really well with going with Sunnyvision anymore and look for alternatives, and a friend of me runs his network in SG.
    Upstream Telstra and PCCW, v6 enabled.
    http://bgp.he.net/AS9234

  • klikliklikli Member

    @William said: 103.11.140.3

    2400:8800:1f08::1

    From Netvigator

    Isaacs-MacBook-Pro:monitorpop isaac$ traceroute -q1 103.11.140.3
traceroute to 103.11.140.3 (103.11.140.3), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  dsldevice (192.168.8.1)  75.124 ms
 2  n112119178254.netvigator.com (112.119.178.254)  12.548 ms
 3  n219076122230.netvigator.com (219.76.122.230)  14.241 ms
 4  n219076107034.netvigator.com (219.76.107.34)  13.658 ms
 5  ge13-1.br01.hkg05.pccwbtn.net (63.218.145.85)  12.790 ms
 6  i-0-14-0-3-peer.hkhh01.pr.telstraglobal.net (134.159.161.137)  14.332 ms
 7  i-3-1-0.hkhh-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.154.217)  13.878 ms
 8  i-3-1-2.istt-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.143.57)  52.579 ms
 9  unknown.telstraglobal.net (202.84.243.114)  49.522 ms
10  63.216.152.194 (63.216.152.194)  49.539 ms
11  10g-adn-103-11-140-3.solone.net (103.11.140.3)  48.767 ms

    FYI, IPv6 via BuyVM

    traceroute to 2400:8800:1f08::1 (2400:8800:1f08::1), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
 1  2607:f358:1:fed5:24::3 (2607:f358:1:fed5:24::3)  0.103 ms  0.038 ms  0.024 ms
 2  2607:f358:1a:4::1 (2607:f358:1a:4::1)  9.862 ms  9.807 ms  9.821 ms
 3  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.sjc1.he.net (2001:470:1:7c::1)  2.180 ms  2.725 ms  2.681 ms
 4  10gigabitethernet2-1.core1.sjc2.he.net (2001:470:0:55::2)  6.866 ms  6.969 ms  6.939 ms
 5  10gigabitethernet3-3.core1.den1.he.net (2001:470:0:1b4::2)  36.223 ms  35.891 ms  36.124 ms
 6  10gigabitethernet8-2.core1.chi1.he.net (2001:470:0:1af::1)  52.989 ms  56.072 ms  56.036 ms
 7  pccw.gige-g3-20.core1.chi1.he.net (2001:470:0:120::2)  51.771 ms  52.226 ms  51.806 ms
 8  2400:8800:1f08::1 (2400:8800:1f08::1)  243.144 ms  243.233 ms  243.181 ms

    Mind getting us Speedtest files?

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