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Awmusic12635Awmusic12635 Member, Host Rep

At least they are admitting they have a problem.

http://localhost.re/p/whmcs

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  • Hmm.. is that the same Aaron from wholesaleinternet?

  • c0yc0y Member

    Looks more like "Hey, where are you? We want to try get the feds to stop you from annoying us.."

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Frost said:
    Looks more like "Hey, where are you? We want to try get the feds to stop you from annoying us.."

    To be fair, it may be a legitimate request with no hidden intentions.

  • @jarland said:
    To be fair, it may be a legitimate request with no hidden intentions.

    So naive :)

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  • I would think WHMCS is sincere about the offer I mean why would they go thought all that trouble to catch the 1 guy when there is probably another 100 hackers to take his place..

  • JanevskiJanevski Member
    edited October 2013

    @jarland said:
    To be fair, it may be a legitimate request with no hidden intentions.

    I don't know for sure, but i think that it might be a legitimate request for part time work too. Anyhow something that could have been even better is a full time work offer.

    I do believe that WHMCS primary intentions are to sell a good product and earn money for their work, not to imprison someone who found a flaw in their work.

  • TsumeTsume Member
    edited October 2013

    @earl said:
    I would think WHMCS is sincere about the offer I mean why would they go thought all that trouble to catch the 1 guy when there is probably another 100 hackers to take his place..

    Because he's the only person publicly announcing their faults.
    It'd be pretty easy to have feds knock down his door if they had his address or even relative place of living, like a city.

  • @Tsume said:
    It'd be pretty easy to have feds knock down his door if they had his address or even relative place of living, like a city.

    Since when Is publicly displaying security issues of software a crime?

    I don't see of this guy has done anything against UK laws.

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  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @bauhaus said:
    So naive :)

    So paranoid and untrusting :)

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  • @eric1212 said:
    I don't see of this guy has done anything against UK laws.

    True enough. Though the methods might possibly be questionable.

  • earlearl Member
    edited October 2013

    @Tsume said:
    Because he's the only person publicly announcing their faults. It'd be pretty easy to have feds knock down his door if they had his address or even relative place of living, like a city.

    That's what I'm saying you take this guy down there will be others to take his place, so it's best to actually fix the problem then mask it, you can't arrest everyone that finds an exploit in their script..

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Wouldn't be the first company to hire a hacker.

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  • @jarland said:
    Wouldn't be the first company to hire a hacker.

    yeah it think it happens all the time.. company gets hacked instead of arresting the guy they make him work for the co..

  • Doesn't the FBI hire hackers to assist them? I'm not too sure as I don't live in the US, but I remember hearing it somewhere..

  • It's OK guys, Matt and Aaron explicitly states they are friendly and good people.

  • @jarland said:
    To be fair, it may be a legitimate request with no hidden intentions.

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    Bridge for sale cheap. I'll sell it to you for $100 in cash.

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  • flyfly Member

    earl said: Hmm.. is that the same Aaron from wholesaleinternet?

    >

    there's only one aaron in the world

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited October 2013

    Come on, they will ask for a place to send the money and that is the end if he /she gives them that info, he/she doesnt even have to go collect.
    Actually, if whmcs would have been a bigger company capable to pay the feds he would have been caught by now and you can be sure they would have invested those money in going after him instead of securing their code.

  • @fly said:
    there's only one aaron in the world

    It's possible, but very unlikely..

    I was just questioning whether Aaron wendel from wholesaleinternet had a dabble in WHMCS as well.. I suppose I could google if I really cared but I don't really..

  • mpkossenmpkossen Member
    edited October 2013

    This is probably a trap. All they have to do to fix their security issues is hire a decent programmer. There's plenty of them out there. Why would they waste a couple of grand on flying to this guy that is damaging their reputation while they can also spend that on a capable programmer?

    And I think it's Aaron from cPanel.

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  • BrianHarrisonBrianHarrison Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 2013

    @earl said:
    Hmm.. is that the same Aaron from wholesaleinternet?

    That certainly came out of left field... is that just wild speculation?

  • @BrianHarrison said:
    That certainly came out of left field... is that just wild speculation?

    No.. that's actually a question..

  • DalCompDalComp Member
    edited October 2013

    Aaron Phillips
    Vice President of Operations (cPanel) and Business Development (WHMCS)

    http://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronphillips

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  • WOW! I did not realize my question would start such a commotion, it's a simple question that has been answered by a couple members already.. I admit it's late I've had a few beers so yeah maybe I was too lazy to google, lol.. but thanks for the info..

    Anyhow to think that WHMCS is owned by cPanel, and still so many security flaws you have to wonder about cPanel the CP?

  • ricardoricardo Member
    edited October 2013

    Doubt they'd have to travel far, he uses American English. Just remembered that WHMCS is a Brit company.. hehe. cheap flights to the USA....

  • Personally I could see it going either way... WHMCS is losing customers because of all these exploits, how would throwing one hacker in prison help? There are a thousand other hackers capable of what he's doing. I think WHMCS is trying to do damage control and get him to basically shut his trap like how Apple hired the jailbreaker, Comex.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited October 2013

    @skybucks100 said:
    Personally I could see it going either way... WHMCS is losing customers because of all these exploits, how would throwing one hacker in prison help? There are a thousand other hackers capable of what he's doing.

    Yes, but the idea is not to repair the code, but to stop the disclosures by "teaching a lesson".
    In a totalitarian society you need to keep a balance, you cannot kill or throw everyone in jail (WHMCS cannot chase all the hackers and coders capable to look at the code and find flaws, nobody will be available to code), the rulers will have nobody to work for them, wage their wars, repress the others, they have to do some showtrials, a rape case here a child porn one there, a tax evasion here, a dope in the medical kit one there, this is how it works, trumped up charges, show trials others might not "dare" to "challenge" the powerful.
    Fortunately WHMCS is far from the power of halliburton, Exxon, NSA, cults and the like.

  • RadiRadi Host Rep, Veteran

    One word: Audit.

  • Can't say I'd trust them, even if they are friendly, but it's nice that they're FINALLY reaching out to this guy after how long...

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