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Low End VPS Offer Posting Rules (Update 2012)

Low End VPS Offer Posting Rules (Update 2012)

LowEndAdminLowEndAdmin Member
edited July 2012 in Offers

This forum can be used by VPS hosting providers to post special offers for the LowEndTalk community. These are the rules for posting in this category:

  • Members must have 5 posts and have been registered for 7 days to be allowed to post in this forum.
  • You must have a website with a proper ordering system. "Email me to get this deal" does not count.
  • VPS offers only. No shared hosting, cloud hosting or other products where the actual users do not get root or Administrator account.
  • Low End offers only. Currently a price point must be met
    • USD$7/month recurring on monthly billing, with no setup fee, or
    • USD$60/year recurring on annual billing, with no setup fee, if the provider has been in business for more than a year.
    • For currency other than USD, use the foreign exchange on the day of posting to verify the cost fits the requirement.
    • Do not list packages that do not pass the pricing test, even if you have one or more that do.
  • Maximum 1 post per provider per 14 days. More frequent than that would be regarded as spams and posts will be removed.

  • Using a nulled WHMCS grants you a lifetime ban on LowEndBox and LowEndTalk.

  • Providers under 12 months old need to display valid Public WHOIS information on their domain.

  • Please be informative in your offers. Please list out basic specifications (amount of memory, storage space, monthly data/bandwidth and port speed), virtualization method (Xen, OpenVZ, KVM, etc), data center location and a test IP would be ideal.

Discussion threads that do not conform to the rules will be deleted, and repeating offenders will have account suspended.

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  • AsimAsim Member

    Just for information, it would be nice to list down all the payment gateways one provider supports.

    For me, I have to place an order to know what payment gateways they support, in my country Paypal does not work :(

  • drmikedrmike Member
    edited July 2011

    Thanks for putting this in writing. Not having such was an issue before. :)

    edit: I would suggest though dropping the post count down to 5. We don't get that much traffic around here.

  • @drmike -- Yup done. Thanks for suggestion. More rules will be written regarding to the conduct on the this community forum (when I get a chances).

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    So no offer posts during the 1st 7 days?

    Hostigation High Resource Hosting - SolusVM OpenVZ/KVM VPS
  • @miTgiB -- to prevent people signing up just to post their offers, rather than wanting to be part of the community first.

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    While I know it doesn't pertain to this site much, I'm just throwing my advertising rules from FreeWHT in hopes it can offer some ideas: http://www.freewebhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?12231-Advertisement-Rules

    I'm a huge fan of the post + age requirement to prevent spam. I normally do 10 posts + 24 hours for posting links, images, or using signatures but for advertising I do 10 posts + 7 days. Bravo LEA! :)

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, TX, and AZ
    Test our network here: Drgn.biz
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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    While I know many others disagree with this, might I suggest a similar requirement that WHT has, require non-hidden WHOIS for domains? I know some people hide their WHOIS for privacy but as a company you shouldn't hide behind it. Just my opinion of course.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, TX, and AZ
    Test our network here: Drgn.biz
  • LowEndAdminLowEndAdmin Member
    edited July 2011

    Thanks for the link. I'll "study" it a bit today after work :)

    Edit -- @KuJoe yes it makes sense to have non-hidden WHOIS for actual commercial site where people entrusted their credit card info or PayPal info with.

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • Are the cheap dedicated server offers not allowed?

    FreeVPS.us - The oldest post to host VPS provider
  • @dmmcintyre3 -- At the beginning I did list cheap dedicated servers at $30/month or less. However I found

    • They usually have hefty setup fee which makes "testing out" not really feasible
    • Those are usually on ancient hardware or Atoms.
    • At that price range, a $30/month VPS from low end provider would probably be more reliable and perform better.

    Yes I know there is still a market for it, and it's something I need to think about. LowEndBox/LowEndTalk wasn't really aiming at filling every space there's a market though.

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • I would not posting any offer here.. :|

    1. they are more cheaper than my offer in any other forums. :D
    2. i just want to share my experience with all LEB/LET members here and learn from them too. :P
    Yes! I'm with Carstensz Pyramid Server Now stop asking me please :D
  • I'm going to miss the investigation that LEA do on LEB. :)

  • marrcomarrco Member

    I'd love to see some info about the 'provider' at least if he's a real company with a tax id, and how long he's been in business as a company.

    Additionally, who can post offers? Only providers or also resellers, with a referral code (pls, no!). Last year Linode did a great offer that someone (Dr Mike?) posted on let. Will that be allowed?

  • @marrco -- good question. If someone from the community found a good offer posted in other forums that fit into the criteria, can that be posted? I would think so, as "sharing a good VPS deal" is quite a community thing to do.

    That means I might need to rewrite the rules a bit :)

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • drmikedrmike Member

    I've posted offers that I've come across before. Seems like most of them wind up in the dead pool though. I don't have much good luck with finding good ones.

    Takes 5 minutes to get a PMB. (Heck, I use one of the resource centers that I used to volunteer at for my whois) Never saw the need for a hidden Whois.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    Thieves love the WHOIS Privacy.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, TX, and AZ
    Test our network here: Drgn.biz
  • drmikedrmike Member

    @marrcomarrco LEA has posted resellers before on the main site. He usually states that they're resellers though although I believe we've caught a couple that has gotten by him.

  • fanfan Member

    Is it possible to open a dedicated section to post LEB offers? A mix of discussions and offers will be confusing.

  • @fan - you're just looking at it odd :) Check the right hand side of the main index and you'll see categories. The default view is a massive 'group all'.

    Francisco

    BuyVM - OpenVZ & KVM Based / TUN, PPTP, FUSE, SIT & GRE Enabled! / Stallion Control Panel
  • drmikedrmike Member

    Well in theory of course they'll be there. We've had a few providers who I wouldn't be sure for them to get their offers in the right place. :)

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @LEA Is the goal to have all offers submitted in the offers section then cherry pick what you like best to be featured on LEB?

    Hostigation High Resource Hosting - SolusVM OpenVZ/KVM VPS
  • @miTgiB - yes that was my plan. Maybe not just from the providers, but also other users if they have spotted an offer. And I don't mind current customers leaking customer-only deals :)

    How much time I can spend on LEB/LET is really limited as I have work and other commitments. Sometimes I too have missed some great offers. Some good offers were sent to me, and by the time I managed to post them they either have sold out or close to expiry. So maybe an Offers forum would help.

    But yes, rules need to be in place to prevent too much spams.

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @LEA Great, I was seeing how this was playing out and that struck me as a great idea, and you've added some more benefits to doing it that way as well, should turn into a success for everyone.

    Hostigation High Resource Hosting - SolusVM OpenVZ/KVM VPS
  • About the 5 post requirement and the 7 days of registration time, it would be good to limit the posts to multiple days (at least on 2 different days) and also that they are quality posts, not crappy posts like "yeah, you're right", "i disagree (if no points are mention)". Otherwise, some hosts could began spaming again.

  • Hmm - would this replace the system whereby you emailed contact @ [leb].com ?

  • dirkdirk Member

    the availability of native ipv6 should also be part of the offer (I think)

  • rds100rds100 Member

    So maybe create some template form where a provider has to fill all the required fields and only then his post appears on the offers section? This way it will be easier to compare the offers.

  • SpiritSpirit Administrator

    Does this means in case that same offer appear at LET and then at LEB doubled discussion? If yes I see some potential long term problems here like a lot doubled posts, doubled arguments, etc, etc.. or opposite - some important part, some discovery, some interesting users experience... in one of those two doubled threads missing, etc.

    Sometimes appear some really interesting discussion about some host - and now isn't a bit problematic to have SAME interesting popular discussion divided into two places?

  • drmikedrmike Member

    How often they're allowed to post offers here would also be something that needs to be looked at.

  • GaryGary Member

    I see the first post mentions monthly billing and yearly billing at certain price points. What about quarterly? There are quite a few that require quarterly payments.

    I'd like to see a test file from all providers too, but then they'll just go and make sure that the test VPS is on the node with the lowest load...

    If you can have them fill out a standard form, some of the legwork you do, like checking if they're behind whois protection, when the domain was registered, if it has adjacent nameservers etc, can probably be automated.

  • I like the standard form. A standardized posting results in a better apples to apples comparison.

    Signatures are to identify who I am. I'm me. Who the hell are you?

  • drmikedrmike Member
    edited July 2011

    I'm going to make what's probably an unpopular suggestion here but it's not been suggested yet:

    Let's make it offer free and not allow them. Considering 99% of the ones listed here were above the price range of a LEB and/or where made from a newly created sock puppet user account, may be something to consider.

    Having a link to the Contact/About page on the main site where it states the correct method of making an offer (ie Contact LEA) should also be done.

  • GaryGary Member

    Well I don't see the problem with allowing users to post offers they find, and if we're going to allow that, there's going to be sock puppetry. If there's going to be sock puppetry, we may as well allow the providers to post the offers by themselves, but with strict rules.

  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member
    edited July 2011

    @drmike The only flaw I see with your suggestion is LEA has said he would like to cherry pick the offers from here to feature on LEB

    Hostigation High Resource Hosting - SolusVM OpenVZ/KVM VPS
  • @drmike @miTgiB Indeed. One of the reasons of a low end offer forum is because I myself is not that scalable. Been very busy lately and I only want to post 1-2 offers per day max. However I have been flooded with requests, repeated requests, emails asking why their offers haven't been made on the blog, and emails saying my delays of listing their offer is jeopardising their business! LOL

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • drmikedrmike Member

    Could always pull a (Oh what the heck is that index site. I forget the name. Yahoo uses them and Google supported them for a bit.) where if you email them asking where their listing is, they get dropped to the end of the list. :)

  • Why not be more selective and reject offers from companies with poor reputations for example?

  • justinbjustinb Member
    edited July 2011

    jtodd said: Why not be more selective and reject offers from companies with poor reputations for example?

    Could force anyone posting to post a company registration proof from the CoC/equivalent, but anything past that is kinda subjective/relative

    Postgres

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    I still like this idea: http://www.lowendtalk.com/questions/12173/new-leb-feature-suggestion-deadpool-probability

    Maybe a way to incorporate that idea into the offers section?

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, TX, and AZ
    Test our network here: Drgn.biz
  • ODP - Open Directory Project

    That's the name of the folks I was thinking of.

  • Could someone let me know why my offer thread was removed?

  • "Please be informative in your offers. Please list out basic specifications (amount of memory, storage space, monthly data/bandwidth and port speed), virtualization method (Xen, OpenVZ, KVM, etc), data center location and a test IP would be ideal."

    This is my guess jtodd.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, TX, and AZ
    Test our network here: Drgn.biz
  • @jtodd -- I think with a single link to your website is not something informative and allows the members here to discuss your offerings.

    Blog at LowEndBox.com.

  • No worries. I thought the link was best as it has everything nicely presented there, but I'll write out a proper ad for the forum :)

  • drmikedrmike Member
    edited August 2011

    +1 for any offer outside of the normal LEA requirements to be deleted on sight. :)

    edit: That's not directed towards jtodd. Just saying...

  • Question: I had 100 karma and lots of posts and membership days on the old OSQA. Can I pst a free offer aswell?

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • Discussion threads that do not conform to the rules will be deleted

    Just to clarify since some forums don't allow this but if we see issues or concerns (or downright fraud) with an offer, we're allowed to point that out, right?

  • This is a great way for I think for providers to be listed, as in my opinion LEB was getting loaded with new providers that may eventually go to the dead pool or the offers were not that great. I think LEB should be reserved for top hosts that have been around for awhile so you know your getting a bang for your buck

    ChicagoVPS.net - OpenVZ/Xen/KVM Based VPS's / Great Support! / 6 Geographically Diverse Locations: Buffalo, Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Dallas, New Jersey

  • I think somebody else mentioned it already somewhere, but I like the idea of providers posting here and LEA picking what he decides to be LEB-worthy.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, TX, and AZ
    Test our network here: Drgn.biz
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